Event Schedule for 2013

Mark Doll will have their event on May 18 & 19 at Wauzeka.
Jim and Judy Mente's will host Mt. Road event on July 20 & 21.
The Neis family has agreed to the Dickeyville event on Aug. 3.
The boys from Town Creek Trials, Black River Falls, will host event Sept 21 & 22.  This will are be a dual event with UMTA.
Noel Smage will host at Smagical Rock, Mauston, April 7 or 14.  Also a 2 day event Sept 7 & 8 or the 14 & 15.
Note: NATC National in Duluth - Aug 24 & 24.  And the World event is rumored to hopefully be on May 25 & 26 in TN.
If anyone can fill in any other dates, please let me know.  We need these set up by the Dist 16 meeting, Nov 10.
I am working with UMTA and NITRO presidents so as to not schedule events on the same weekend.  They do not have to have their schedules in untill first of Dec but will keep me posted of their plans.  So with Noel being flexible, hope to have the schedule soon.
Thanks for your help,
Shari Huber

For those of us who have to pick vacation in November for the whole following year, thank you for the heads up

NATC Meeting 10/19-10/21 with 2013 schedule determined at that time!

[8/24 & 8/25 Spirit Mountain – Duluth, MN]

6/15 & 6/16/2013  New York
 
6/22 & 6/23 Vermont
 
7/27 & 7/28 Arizona
 
8/3 & 8/4  New Mexico
 
8/24 & 8/25  Spirit Mountain – Duluth, MN

 

   Do NITRO  and UMTA have there calendars up  to see  which weekends might be most open for the smagrock events?  would really like to have  a shot  at some foreigners  coming over. I thought this years turnouts as far as raw rider #s  where on the verge of piss poor.  My event could be so much better if  we could be more assured of strong draw ,thats why I feel its a bit unfair to for 3 years ihn a row award BRF  things like double points and cross border points  . 

Have you contacted NITRO or UMPTE to see what would work best? I left a message on your answering machine but you haven't responded yet. 

   I want to thank the WOTA  officers for the effort that they have made over the last 3 years to notify NITRO on the dates they choose  for the WOTA series.

 With this information I try to work out a schedule that does not conflict with NITRO's . There are six different venues in IL. that we use to put on at least ten events for NITRO.

Our Dist.17 Sanction meeting is in Early Dec. and at this meeting will try.... as I have in the past  to persuade  the different groups not to conflict with WOTA's events.
                                                                                            Ralph Littlefield

wITH  brf  sEP 22 WEKEND WE WOULD NOT BE WISE TO HAVE ONE JUST 1 WEEK B4  AND  TO AVOID lABOR DAY SEEMS  TO LEAVE THE  7/8  DATES AS ONLY CHOICE WHICH i ASSUME WILL CONFLICT WITH IL AND MN

Noel,

Obviously you have a problem with BRF getting cross border points.  Maybe the reason it gets cross border points is because it's an hour and a half closer to Minnesota?  Just a possibility.  We all know your family has done an awful lot for the sport of trials.  Your kids are amazing riders, and more approachable than anyone I've met in a long time. Good people.   Now to my point.  For you to send an email to the Minnesota members on the umta website to get them to have Mauston a cross border points event over BRF, calling BRF a "mole hill with three rocks" crosses the line.  If it's that important to you, tell Dave you want it.  He'll probably say great, have it.  Nobody works harder at putting on a good event than Dave Jelinek.  He's just too good of a guy to say anything back.  Let alone say it on the internet for all to see.  That's like Dave calling your place a "total sand pit".  The world of trials doesn't revolve around you.  Get over yourself.   

I'm posting this as the Admin of this site...

Before this escalates any further, lets everyone please tone it down a little bit.  Discussion is good, and the schedule and which events get cross-border points needs to get worked out, but lets keep it civil please.

Dan Salton

Good point Dan, and with that may I impose upon you all with some history, which may or may not be pertinent.

The origin of joint point events between the WOTA & the UMTA date back to, I believe 1981 or 1982.  With the help of Hans & Nate Pigorsch, we had our first Hixton Trial at Silvermound in 1978.  It quickly became a very popular venue with riders from Wisconsin, Illinois, Iowa and Minnesota.  Another riding area that was also very popular at the time was Thielman, MN, drawing riders heavily friom MN, Iowa, WI and even from Illinois. 

In 1982, I became a Montesa dealer and became friends with a Yamaha dealer from So St Paul named John Fitzgerald.  John dabbled in Trials on the side (SWM) more as a hobby than a money maker.  In an effort to promote both friendly competition between clubs as well as our sales, we set about promoting a couple of 2 day joint point paying events - one at Thielman and one at Silvermound.  It made great sense.  Riders from both states were attending both events.  Travel time from the Twin cities area, where most of the MN riders were concentrated, was only a little bit further to Hixton than it was to Thielman.

It goes without saying that they were a success.  One year we decided to have a Tri state Championship event, which turned out to be a Quad State Championship between WI, MN, IA & Ill.  Shortly thereafter I was tossing around the idea of becoming a Fantic Dealer and invited Chuck West/TMi, the Fantic importer to Hixton to promote his new franchise and a series he was pushing called AOTSCA (Amer Observed Trials Sidecar Assoc) which featured small bore classes and side cars.  He mad a promotional trip to our area with his team and we had a 2 day with one day being at Thielman and one day at Silvermound.  In 1984, we actually held a AOTSCA National at Silvermound. 

In 1986, we had a NATC National with one day being at Thielman and one day at Silvermound - a memorable event in that Ryan Young won his 1st National at Silvermound breaking a 16 event win streak by multi year Champ, Scott Head.

As time went on, 25 years of events at Silvermound took its toll.  Hunting and other land use problems arose there and we moved to the Quarry.  Fast forward a little more and Dave Jelinek and the Town Creek Trials boys became involved.  As old age began to set in on Kirschner and land use problems arose at the quarry, the venue moved 10 miles to BRF.

And the joint UMTA/WOTA relationship moved there and continues because it is first of all, IMHO, it is a good event.  I always have fun there.  It may not be top notch NATC caliber terrain, but Dave, Jeremy, Adam, Randy, Billy and the rest of the Town Creek crew do an excellent job of working with what they have to put on a great event.

Of great importance in this day of gasoline prices pushing $4/gallon, it is within that 2 hour travel time for most MN riders....3 hours for some.  Mauston, albeit good terrain and a good event, becomes a 3.5 to 4.5 hour jaunt for most MN riders.

Soooooooo, as Dan said, lets tone it down.  Lets not start stepping on toes over petty and inappropriate arguments when in the end, history has made this event what it is and travel time makes a change of venue prohibitive.  After all, a very few riders make the trip based soley on points.

What is the current reasoning or framework for bestowing double District 16 points at a particular WOTA event?  Or did we decide to drop the double points?

Double points for (D-16) was used to get more people to an event , as for what I was told in the past. I was told they used it to get more people to Wauzeka because they felt that they were losing alot of riders compared to the past events there. I my self used double points at BRF last year just to get all the D-16 people there to the event so they all would come to the meeting and join in on what was being changed or done for D-16 Trials, But most didnt care about the meeting so I didnt use it again. It is now up to the New President to decide where or if she wishes to use them at all.  Some people get all flustered about dble points but personaly I feel its just a lever to push when you think it will help the cause for that event.
And as far as joint events, if we are having a double points event that doesnt mean that minn. is getting double points. it was for D-16 . and as for holding  joint events with all other states I think it is GREAT, BUT, you have to get them to come there first and like Steve said the cost of gas is killing everyone!!! that I feel is the biggest problem of not getting the people to come.
 you want people to show up at your event tell them you will give them all a 50.00 $ gas card when they sign up ! 
 hope you all have a great holidays! GOD BLESS! JV

Hmmmmmmmmmm.....now here is something to chew on for 2013 - at least at the FIM Level

http://www.trialscentral.com/headline-stories/14343-2013-world-trial-championship-no-stop

No stop???

NO STOP? MEANING THAT YOU CANT STOP DEAD AND BALANCE IN ONE SPOT?? I AM NOT SURE WHAT THEY MEAN, HELP ME! PLEASE.