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Has WOTA considered a Sr Class?  UMTA had 13 different riders in their Sr class this year.  5 or 6 rode significant number of events.  There are those of the opinion that the Sr Classes pay the bills for the NATC.  Maybe ride advanced sections.....or half advanced and half intermediate?

We all do this for fun.  But it still boils down to show me the money.  Fun ain't free  ;D

I`d be up for half of the easier expert and half of the harder advanced .
  Matt

I personally think a Seniors class would be good.  But no one has said anything about it to me and it has not been brought up at a meeting in the last three years.  If we get enough interested maybe we could make it a reality.  Those interested should contact an officer or post on web site.  Thanks for your input. 

Currently some of us "seniors" have been riding "Exhibition"  that way we ride together and can ride whichever line we want (I see Matt wants to ride some expert some advanced, Jeff F. and I have been riding advanced lines, and some ride combination advanced and intermediate lines).  No trophy, but some of us have our own friendly competition with each other.  We will just put down the line we will ride most and put "exhibition" after it.  And we require that anyone that rides in the marked sections pay the entry fee, which helps with expenses like insurance, ribbon, etc.

Numerous reasons to have a senior class...which are likely boring to the non seniors.  Allow me to point out that, to the best of my knowledge, Trials is the only MC discipline in D#16 that does not run Sr classes.  Most (not all) Trials clubs that I am familiar with have Sr classes.

Would there be enough guys to make it worth the extra effort ? I don't mind riding expert , if they don't mind me :)

Yes Steve, I am all for considering adding a Senior class.  I was just stating what we have been doing. 

Steve,

I rode SR once or twice in Illinois, and I recall we rode fewer loops than the rest of the folks. 

In Minnesota - does the SR class ride the same number of loops as the other classes at the event?

Dave

and what is the age range to be included??  ??? ???  my beard is mostly gray  :o

In Mn it seems they usually ride the same number of  loops as the rest.  They normally ride a mixture of intermediate & advanced lines and seem to pick lines by majority rules sort of thing.  Noteworthy is the fact that the old farts are kind of independent and pretty much do as they please ;-).  Kind of an unwritten rule that you ride the line you are comfortable with resultant in instances where different riders actually ride different lines.  Rule #1...keep it fun. 
50 and above seems to be the age. 
If you are younger and "ride not so good", probably be allowed to compete as long as you don't beat up on them.

I say GO forward with Senior Class!! you have my Vote! I think it has been left out for to long, I should have done it years ago!  ;D ;D ;D :o

Would there be one or more classes ? Senior A , Senior B , and how many are willing to join up in which class ?

IMHO....start out with one senior class riding a mixture of Intermediate/Advanced.  If enough riders to have a Sr A & Sr B, do so next year.  Be careful to not make it too complicated by trying to please all the old dogs.  If you are good enough ride expert lines....and you want to ride expert lines...ride expert. ???

Be aware.....there is an equalizer in the easier sections.   ;D

I agree with the idea of one Sr. class to start, with the  tougher Intermediate/ easier Advanced line split to start. The would put the class between Inter/Advanced which offers an option to those of us in the "Mature" category.

The important thing is having a class where riders feel challenged, yet safe and have fun. As we get older we have to make sure our ego is in check and we stay safe.....with that said, my plan is to ride Advanced...and at some point down the road, to try expert :o

It is complicated to make things simple....it is simple to make things complicated    :D

Anything ever become of Sr class?

Anything ever come of Sr class? ???

Nothing in stone.  We will discuss it with the masses at the first few events.  I think we could use one but how it works is all over the map.  Until we get the details worked out it may be a non points class.

My thoughts.  Don't let it be all over the map.  Keep it simple.  The "normal" intent of the class is to give the elder riders (say over 50) that  want to save their ailing knees, back, etc., and preserve riding longevity.  The idea of having numerous Sr levels of riding is unrealistic because, primarily, there just is not enough riders to justify it.

My suggestion....over 50 with half intermediate and half advanced sections.  It is middle of the pack type riding and does not require additional set up.  If riders find it too easy, they certainly can enter the Advanced or Ex class.  If too hard, they can ride intermediate or novice.

The skill level required to ride a class should be determined by the class...not by the riders that want to ride that class.  For example, if an Adavnaced rider wants harder sections, don't change the skill level of the class...move up to Expert.  If you want easier sections, then ride intermediate.

In my mind it makes more sense to start the class and tweak it as you go rather than try to tweak a class before it starts.

Just my 2 cents worth.

I could be interested in some thing like that.

So, would the Sr. sections to be ridden be determined ahead of time, before the event starts?  For example, seniors will ride intermediate sections 2,4,7 &8, and advanced sections 1,3,5&6?

My thoughts...1st choice have Trials Master designate...maybe 1/2 hardest intermediate & half easiest Advanced.  Could mark plates simply stating Sr = I or Sr = A.  See how that works.  Riders can always all ride together the 1st loop and vote on anything deemed too difficult.

Starting point anyway.

That makes sense to me.    If the Senior class is able to draw a few riders that would not otherwise attend that day, the added event income would be helpful, without adding much, if any, cost.  Anything that could potentially get us more riders per event would be a plus.

It's hell to get old.

 ;D  FYI...am the points keeper in the UMTA and would like to share this....
Ranking by number of entrants and subsequent income by class in 2014;
1.  Senior = 56 entrants - $1,400.00
2.  Advanced = 55 - $1,375.00
3.  Expert = 54 - $1,350.00
4.  Vintage= 42 - $1,050.00
5.  Champ = 40 - $1,000.00
6.  Inter = 39 - $975.00
7.  Nov = 37 - $925.00
8.  SupSport = 5 - $125.00
Youth had 9 entrants @ $5.00 per entry.

Draw your own conclusions  :o

Sr/Graybeard class sounds like a good idea. I see that it is the biggest money maker for UMTA.

If Umta did not have a Sr. class, what percentage of those riders would have shown up anyway and rode some other class?

Having a Sr class over a long period  of time could draw several riders "out of retirement", once they hear about it.